Wifes Proposed Build

[hjbennett 3]

My wife wants a sq build. 2009 Nissan Altima. Stock dash 3.5. Stock front door speakers. No rear door speakers. Few months ago, one of her rear deck 6x9s started rattling so i replaced them with Kicker 6x9s. She listens to basically everything. Adelle, Flock of Seagulls, Metallica, and even some rap. She wants a little thump but no overwhelming bass.

i've bought a 652iq and searching for one more. I plan to have Ray strip and powder coat them plum crazy. I want to use Linear amps exclusively in her car.

What I want to do is replace the 3.5 dash speakers. Replace the 6.5 door speakers with 6.5 components. Use the passive bazooka in the trunk.

My questions: Do I need larger amp to push the components? Use one 652 for dash? 952 bridged for the bazooka? Or toss the bazooka and use different sub and enclosure?

This will be built over the next few months due to budget. I'll just buy components as I find them, especially the amps.

Quck question on the amp.. found a 2002 I can get for $75. Work for a sub? or the components?

[Aaron Clinton 18]

And I ran, I ran so far away..... whooops sorry. You can never have too much power, it is how you use it and if you really need it.

[Thunder39208 31]

An LP 2002 for $75 would be great. But I am not sure that amp is bridgeable, and if it is I think it will need an X02 to invert one channel. But it will do a REALLY nice job on the front end.

http://www.linearpow...om/lpspecs.html

Hope this helps

Edited September 11, 2012 by Thunder39208

[smoothfidelity 29]

I wouldn't run the 3.5's. I would first try to install your tweeters in that location to see how they do. I don't think the 3.5's are going to give you any advantage over just the 6.5 components, if properly installed.

If you pick up the 2002 for your sub (I, personally, wouldn't run a Bazooka tube), you can run the 652 on the tweeters, the 952 on your mid/mid-bass, and go fully active. You will need a head unit that will help with the processing, or an external 3 way variable crossover.

What components are you going to run?

[hjbennett 3]

Meh.. I know next to nothing about balancing a system. have to build a bracket for the tweeters to fit that location?

Was thinking about the Polk Audio D6501 for the comps. Reasonably priced and good reviews.

Yeah, I dont like the Bazooka, but I think for what she wants, basically a thump of bass, it will work. If not, I'l pull it and replace with an 8 or 10" in sq enclosure. Just thought I'd try it first since I already have it.

The LP 2002 is not bridgeable. But that deal is still in the air. He wants to sell local and not go throught shipping etc. So unsure about that. I do have an Elemental Designs Nine.2x I can use until I find a larger lp for the comps. As I said she wants a Linear Power build in plum crazy, so if I do use the ed it will be temporary.

[Thunder39208 31]

As she is insisting on a Linear Power build, I can tell she has GREAT taste.

[hjbennett 3]

As she is insisting on a Linear Power build, I can tell she has GREAT taste.

LOL. She remembers the system I had in my camaro 25 years ago when we were dating. Plus she loved the plum crazy color when I was showing her the amps I wanted to put in her car.

Side note: Picking up the 2nd LP 652 this afternoon. Traded some old bluetooth headphones with a guy on craigslist. So now, I just need the 2002 to come through or find a 952 and I'll be ready to drive em down to Pearl for repairs/powdercoating.

[Thunder39208 31]

Camaro?? Please tell us more. Did you get any equipment from Terry Morgan@ Delta TV? He had a nice Black "Kicker" van back in the day...

[hjbennett 3]

Camaro?? Please tell us more. Did you get any equipment from Terry Morgan@ Delta TV? He had a nice Black "Kicker" van back in the day...

Whoaaaaa. Terry actually installed my system! I had 2 10" kickers in the rear well of my camaro, 6" in mids in the doors and tweeter pods in the dash. 952iq for the front, 1752 on the subs.

One year at the county fair a thug busted my t-tops out and stole my stereo and amps. Cops caught him few weeks later and called me into the station to identify my equipment. There was 3 3" stacks of amps and stereos he was caught with.

Reinstalled and bumped along for a few more years until i blew the engine. Loaned out my amps and never saw them again.

After i finish wifes build, ill start gathering linear equipment for me. Ive got 2 652s now in hand so all i need now is a 952 for her amps to be finished.

Gonna use 652 on 3.5s. Not sure which ones im going to get yet. Wll a 652 be enough for Polk audio 6501?

That was a really nice van back in the day! Thanks for bringingnup some good memories thunder.

[Thunder39208 31]

Glad to help.

the 652 was a good little amp 32.5 watts per ch @ 4 ohms. It should do fine as long as she does not like the volume on "11" like we used to. (Then she will need more power.)

I would put the tweeters in the 3" locations hanging on a piece of back-strap to get the angle right. This should image and stage nicely.

When you get it playing let Myself or Ray know, come on down, and we will be glad to help you with the tuning.

I had a shop in Cleveland back in '89 - '91. I bought a ton of stuff from Terry to get my business started. I learned a lot from him and his friend Paul Rivers. Paul had the two tone blue Mazda extra cab truck that competed with Terry.

Edited September 12, 2012 by Thunder39208

[hjbennett 3]

So will a 952 be enough for the polk comps? Or do i need more? And should i amp the 6x9 kickers in the rear deck?

[Thunder39208 31]

A 952 would be very nice on the front end you can always have it modified by Ray if she wants more. And if you need more on the 6x9's the 652 would be nice.

[Thunder39208 31]

(quote) i have quite a few questions about an old school sp linear build, but I'll search before I start posting already answered questions. (quote)

This is from your Welcome post. I'll bet I can answer your question or at least provide you with a link to the answer. HELL. I'll bet you a "Clancy" burger! (local Yazoo City MS cafe)

[smoothfidelity 29]

Drop the 3.5's and rear fill. It's a waste of money and effort that won't offer you anything other than volume; not better sound, and definitely not better staging.

Focus on door preparation, and tweeter location/angles.

[hjbennett 3]

(quote) i have quite a few questions about an old school sp linear build, but I'll search before I start posting already answered questions. (quote)

This is from your Welcome post. I'll bet I can answer your question or at least provide you with a link to the answer. HELL. I'll bet you a "Clancy" burger! (local Yazoo City MS cafe)

lol. my questions were about the old school sq build for my wifes car I am planning. And yes, when the time comes to finish it up I will be traveling to Pearl for some hands on tuning from you or Ray!

[hjbennett 3]

Drop the 3.5's and rear fill. It's a waste of money and effort that won't offer you anything other than volume; not better sound, and definitely not better staging.

Focus on door preparation, and tweeter location/angles.

If I do this, I will have tweeters in the dash. 6.5s in the front door and a sub in the trunk. Will this sound good even from the back seat? There are no rear door speakers. As ya'll can tell, I'm quite "audio build challenged)

[Thunder39208 31]

That will work out great.

Most of our "Team" vehicles are done this way. Tweeters on the "A" pillar mid's in the door location with the subs in the rear. Just make sure to mount the tweeter so we can angle them when you come to Pearl. Like hanging them in the three location on a piece of radio back strap, This will give you more flexibility in tuning the system.

Hope this helps

[hjbennett 3]

so basically : Again showing my lack of knowledge. Comps are mids and tweeter together. So I'm splitting the mid to door and the tweeter to the dash? or do you place tweeters in the dash, and complete set of comps in the door? If you sperate, do you have them connected with the crossover and one channel pushing both mid and tweeter? Thoght about using pms so I didnt appear quite so ignorant, but meh. I is what I is. I'll leave rear deck 6x9 kickers on headunit feed. Bazooka (for now) in trunk Powered by the Elemental Designs until I can locate/buy/have powder coated a larger LP amp. And then possibly upgrade sub if she doesnt like the bazooka sound

[smoothfidelity 29]

so basically : Again showing my lack of knowledge. Comps are mids and tweeter together. So I'm splitting the mid to door and the tweeter to the dash? or do you place tweeters in the dash, and complete set of comps in the door? If you sperate, do you have them connected with the crossover and one channel pushing both mid and tweeter? Thoght about using pms so I didnt appear quite so ignorant, but meh. I is what I is. I'll leave rear deck 6x9 kickers on headunit feed. Bazooka (for now) in trunk Powered by the Elemental Designs until I can locate/buy/have powder coated a larger LP amp. And then possibly upgrade sub if she doesnt like the bazooka sound

Yes, the mid and tweeter will be separated. There is no need for an extra tweeter in the door. I assume you are buying a passive component set. Therefore, one two channel amplifier will supply your power. Each channel of your amp will go to each crossover respectively. From the crossover, you will have one lead that goes to your door (mid), and then one lead the goes up to the dash location where your tweeter will be. You would have to run two leads from your crossover regardless, but now you are just running them to separate locations.

I HIGHLY suggest you read up and do the proper door treatment if possible. Proper door deadening and sealing is one of the most important installation aspects to achieving great sound.

[hjbennett 3]

That was a great explanation smooth.

I actually just won 10sq ft 87 mil and 10sq ft 90 mil MurderMat deadener. I can use some of it, if it makes that much diffrence.

[hjbennett 3]

Ok so far i have a 652iq and a newly acquired 992iq modded by TIPS. Plan is to place tweets in dash where 3.5s are now and 6.5 in doors. Gonna send amps to TIPS for strip/powder coat first so will be a work in progress as i go along.

I need suggestions on comps now. Im going to try to trade an ED nine.2x for the comps. If that doesnt pan out, ill buy some. But i want to stay under $200 if possible. So 6.5 comps under $200?

Run 652 on comps and 952 on sub? Im real close to saying screw the bazooka and building sq box for an undetermined 8" or 10" yet to be procured. I can get a 952 that wont power on for $40 so should i buy it and have it repaired to run comps? Yeah lotta stupid questions and i hate to be a pest but When you dont know you gotta ask.

Edited September 17, 2012 by hjbennett

[Thunder39208 31]

Hard to go wrong with a 952 for $40.00

[hjbennett 3]

Hard to go wrong with a 952 for $40.00

Yeah, I went ahead and bought it. I can always use it on my car.

So, do you have any recommendations for a set of comps <$200? And should I use 652 or 952 on them?

[smoothfidelity 29]

After repair/transportation costs you are at the high end of the price range for a used mint one. Hopefully, it's in great shape.

You want as much power as you can afford on your front stage. If your biggest amp is a 952, then use that.

[hjbennett 3]

I agree I will have paid premium price after repairs and possible modding. But after that I will have a mint linear that can be used for years.